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		<title>Johnnie Armstrong and the Border Reivers</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Johnnie Armstrong of Gilnockie was once one of the most popular, powerful, and feared clan chiefs in the Scottish borders. However, after his execution in 1530 by order of James V, Clan Armstrong have been without a chief for over 450 years. The Border Reivers were a band of raiders along the Scottish-English border from [&#8230;]</p>
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<p>Johnnie Armstrong of Gilnockie was once one of the most popular, powerful, and feared clan chiefs in the Scottish borders. However, after his execution in 1530 by order of James V, Clan Armstrong have been without a chief for over 450 years.</p>
<p>The Border Reivers were a band of raiders along the Scottish-English border from the late 1400s to the beginning of the 1600s, with their heyday arguably during the last 100 years of their existence. They consisted of families from both sides of the border, and one of the most significant and powerful of these border clans was the <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-armstrong/">Armstrongs</a>.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-armstrong/">Armstrongs</a> had a rather uneasy relationship with the Scottish monarchy for a long time, and one of the most notable incidents between the two was the execution of Johnnie Armstrong of Gilnockie along with a number of his men.</p>
<p>Johnnie Armstrong was a popular character who had a lot of followers, and he was also a wealthy man, having amassed great wealth. There has been a lot of speculation as to how Armstrong gained such a fortune in which he was able to maintain his high style of living. It is said that after disappearing for a number of years he reappeared with immense wealth, which allowed him to pay his brother a commission to build Langholm Castle.</p>
<p>It is generally considered that a lot of his fortune came from reiving throughout the lands just south of the border, into England, though there is not a single complaint of reiving recorded. It has also been suggested that Armstrong&#8217;s wealth came from piracy.</p>
<div id="attachment_902" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.letsbuyscottish.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/langholm-tower1.jpg" data-lightboxplus="lightbox[853]" title="Langholm Castle today"><img class="size-full wp-image-902" title="Langholm Castle today" alt="Langholm Castle today" src="http://www.letsbuyscottish.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/langholm-tower1.jpg" width="300" height="200" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Langholm Castle today</p></div>
<p>Some say that Johnnie Armstrong specialised in black mail or black rent, and that there was no town of prominence between his home Gilnockie Tower and Newcastle, that did not pay protection money to him. This protection racket Johnnie had was there to act for security for each town so they would not be attacked by the Border Reivers.</p>
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<p>Armstrong&#8217;s power and influence was considered an embarrassment to the Scottish monarchy, and this enraged the 17 year old <a href="/scotland/kings-queens/1513-james5/">King James V</a>. The Scottish king had already been under some pressure to put an end to the raids that were encroaching south-of-the-border by his English counterpart Henry VIII because they were threatening the peace between the two countries.</p>
<div id="attachment_898" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 255px"><a href="http://www.letsbuyscottish.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/moss-paul1.jpg" data-lightboxplus="lightbox[853]" title="Mosspaul - in the narrow defile on the A7 Johnnie and his followers were ambushed on their way to join the King"><img class="size-full wp-image-898" title="Mosspaul - in the narrow defile on the A7 Johnnie and his followers were ambushed on their way to join the King" alt="Mosspaul - in the narrow defile on the A7 Johnnie and his followers were ambushed on their way to join the King" src="http://www.letsbuyscottish.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/moss-paul1.jpg" width="245" height="172" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Mosspaul &#8211; in the narrow defile on the A7 Johnnie and his followers were ambushed on their way to join the King</p></div>
<p style="text-align: left;">James V decided that he would hold talks with Johnnie Armstrong, sending a letter to Armstrong inviting him to meet up with the royal hunting party at Carlinrigg Chapel. Johnnie  rode north from Gilnockie Tower with his men to Carlinrigg dressed in their fine clothes which was to show their wealth and status, and hoping that they would be well recieved by the king, they were all unarmed. But they were greeted by an ambushed of the king&#8217;s accompanying army, which was said to have been 10,000 men strong, and the demonstration of wealth did nothing but infuriate the short tempered and education deprived young James V especially since he was said to not have been dressed as well.</p>
<p>It became clear to Johnnie Armstrong that the king had no intention of holding talks, and knowing that his life was in danger he attempted to bribe the king, and even make reassurances that he never killed a fellow Scotsman. But these promises of wealth did nothing for the king and he ordered the execution of Armstrong and all of his men.</p>
<p>In a final act of defiance it is claimed that Armstrong said directly to James these words,</p>
<p><strong> &#8220;I am but a fool to seek grace at a graceless face, but had I known you would have taken me this day, I would have lived in the Borders despite King Harry (Henry VIII) and you both.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>Johnnie Armstrong and his men (figures range between 24, 36, and 50+) were all taken out and hanged from the trees, and then buried in a mass, unmarked grave.  It is believed that Armstrong only attended such a meeting with the King because he had given unequivocal assurance that he would be safe.  In the king&#8217;s official statement he said the reason for the hanging was because Johnnie Armstrong attended their meeting better dressed than himself which was a public display of disrespect for his King.</p>
<p>History states that one of Johnnie Armstrong&#8217;s sons managed to escape the scene and fled to England where he settled under a different name. It was not uncommon for some of the border reivers to flee and change there names by either adopting something completely different such as Blackburn or Walker, but they have even been known to have simply just spelt their name backwards to avoid detection. So a blood line of the last Chief of the <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-armstrong/">Armstrong</a>&#8216;s exists.</p>
<p>Even though over the years a lot of the border families fought amongst each other, even to the point of death, whenever one of them was attacked by an outsider they would stand shoulder to shoulder, united. The death of the popular Johnnie Armstrong by James V caused great indignation throughout the border clans. The King&#8217;s actions were considered underhand and unjust, especially since Armstrong and his men were unarmed, and the King&#8217;s popularity along the borders hit a low.</p>
<div id="attachment_894" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 230px"><img class="size-full wp-image-894" title="The mass grave of Johnnie Armstrongs and his followers was discovered" alt="The mass grave of Johnnie Armstrongs and his followers was discovered" src="http://www.letsbuyscottish.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/johnnie-stone1.jpg" width="220" height="330" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The mass grave of Johnnie Armstrongs and his followers was discovered</p></div>
<div id="attachment_886" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 205px"><img class="size-full wp-image-886" title="johnn-armstrong-stone2" alt="A memorial stone to Johnnie Armstrong" src="http://www.letsbuyscottish.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/johnn-armstrong-stone21.jpg" width="195" height="293" /><p class="wp-caption-text">A memorial stone to Johnnie Armstrong</p></div>
<p>The grave of Johnnie Armstrong and his men remained undiscovered until around 30 years ago when a farmer working the field opposite Carlinrigg Chapel overturned a large stone. The stone was rectangular in shape and had unusal markings. The farmer contacted the Armstrong Association who were excited at the thought that he may have found discovered the final resting place of the infamous Johnnie Armstrong.</p>
<p>A group of dowsers were brought in and positioned at different points of the field. They all set off, each of them finally came to a hot point at the same place -where the stone sat. Archaeologist arrived to survey the area and a mass grave was found at the point of the stone, which contained a large number of men, and it is generally accepted to be the grave of Armstrong and his men.</p>
<p>The border reivers finally came to an end around the time of the <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scotland/scottish-history/scottish-unification/1603-union/">Union of the Crowns</a> in 1603. <a href="/scotland/kings-queens/1567-james6/">James VI</a>, the grandson of James V, forcefully put an end to the raids by splitting up the families and deporting them to Ulster, or conscripting them off to Holland, or just executing them.</p>
<p>There have been stories as to what happened to Johnnie Armstrong&#8217;s vast fortune. One of the most prominent stories is that it is in fact buried at Langholm Castle, under a point where there is a risen part of the ground where a vault could easily be hidden.</p>
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		<title>Border Reivers-Kinmont Willie Armstrong</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The capture and rescue of Kinmont Willie Armstrong brought together three of the most colourful characters in the history of the Border Reivers. The impasse that existed between Sir Walter Scott, probably the most notable person to live on the sixteenth century Border, and Thomas Lord Scrope, English West March Warden, is a story of a clash of personalities of awesome proportions. Kinmont Willie? He was lost in the diplomatic wrangling. His capture changed nothing. He went on to reive until his death in about 1603.</p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-armstrong/">Armstrong</a> of Kinmont, a Scottish Border Reiver, was notorious for his raids into England. He was captured by the English in March 1596 contrary to the Border Law.</p>
<p>Kinmont was well prized by the English who had no answer to his constant raids into northern England. His organised forays south of the <a href="http://searchwarp.com/Author247770.htm">English Scottish Border Line</a>, coupled with his contempt for English authority and its hapless attempts to curtail his reiving, had made him enemy number one to the Lord Scropes. They were members of the English aristocracy who, father and son, were Wardens of the English West March from 1561 to 1603.</p>
<p>Kinmont raided Tarset in Tynedale, Northumberland on more than one occasion and was party, in these particularly vicious forays, to the murder of many men. One of these raids was carried out in daylight, unusual in itself as the reivers usually operated at night, and contained over a thousand men from the valleys of southern Scotland. They returned to the Scottish Border valleys with thousands of sheep and cattle and left homelessness and destitution in their wake.</p>
<div id="attachment_39403" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 610px"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/armstrong1.jpg" data-lightboxplus="lightbox[1776]" title="Border Reivers-Kinmont Willie Armstrong"><img class="size-full wp-image-39403" alt="Border Marches showing the Border Line" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/armstrong1.jpg" width="600" height="449" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Border Marches showing the Border Line</p></div>
<p><strong>The &#8216;Day of Truce&#8217; at the Dayholme of Kershope.</strong></p>
<p>In March 1596 a &#8216;Day of Truce&#8217; was held near Kershopefoot on the Border of England and Scotland. It was a day purportedly to be held at monthly intervals in each of the East, Middle and West Marches of both countries; a day when felons were brought to the very Border Line to answer for their crimes in an open-air venue. Many men, both English and Scottish, were requested to attend the court and witness that the proceedings were both honourable and fair and upheld the principle and spirit of the Border Law. All who attended were granted safe conduct whilst the Truce lasted through the medium of the &#8216;Assurance of the Truce&#8217;. Such a measure was necessary as both the Scots and English invited to attend as witnesses might, outside the Truce, be at Feud or deadly enemies of each other, the result of previous reiving or family disagreement. Many a man viewed his neighbour of the day with suspicion, hatred or scorn.</p>
<p>Theft of cattle, sheep and &#8216;insight&#8217;, i.e. household and farming goods and tools, were the most common reasons for trial but murder, the result of constant feud and searing animosity against neighbour or enemy from across the Border Line, was ever present. Murder was the inevitable outcome of the hatred that hardened in men&#8217;s hearts. It mattered not a whit should such enmity concern a fellow countryman. The product of the Feud often encompassed many generations.</p>
<p><strong>Kinmont Willie is Present at the Truce</strong></p>
<p>Kinmont Willie was called by the Keeper of Liddesdale, Walter <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-scott/">Scott</a> of Branxholme and Buccleuch, to attend the &#8216;Day of Truce&#8217; at the Dayholme of Kershope to represent the Scots. The trials of the Border Reivers on the day went without incident and both Deputy Wardens, presidents of the proceedings, were satisfied that justice had been achieved. Just before sunset both English and Scottish parties began to make their way home. The safe conduct or &#8216;Assurance&#8217; of the Truce was enshrined in Border Law and lasted until sun-up of the following day. Thereby all who had attended were confident that they could make their way home unmolested by erstwhile enemies who, on this occassion, were required to honour the Law.</p>
<p><strong>Kinmont Willie is Captured by the English.</strong></p>
<p>As Kinmont Willie rode down the Scottish bank of the river Liddel, he was seen by a party of English making their way home on the opposite side of the river, down the English bank. They could not resist the temptation of seeing the greatest Reiver of the age tantalisingly within their grasp. Safe conduct and &#8216;Assurance&#8217; thrown to the wind, they turned and rode hard across the river Liddel and chased Kinmont down. He was bound and taken to Carlisle castle where he was imprisoned.</p>
<p><strong>War of Words leads to Deadlock</strong></p>
<p>When Buccleuch, Keeper of Liddesdale, learned that <a href="http://www.reivershistory.co.uk">Kinmont Willie </a>was in prison as a result of being taken against the honour of the &#8216;Assurance of the Truce&#8217;, he was incandescent with rage. He took no time in writing to the English March Warden, Thomas Lord Scrope, demanding Kinmont&#8217;s immediate release. Scrope, like his father Henry before him as Warden, so coveted the neck of the much vaunted Reiver that he refused to succumb to Buccleuch&#8217;s forthright petitions. Rather he met the fury with measured indifference and cited more than one spurious reason why he would not comply. Even <a href="/scotland/kings-queens/1567-james6/">James Vl of Scotland</a> and Elizabeth l became embroiled in the acrimonious affair.</p>
<p>Eventually tiring of the impasse, Buccleuch resolved to breach the defences of Carlisle castle and rescue Kinmont. He was heartened by the fact that he would have inside help from members of the English garrison of the castle who had tired of Thomas Lord Scrope&#8217;s dictatorial rule as well as aid from the premier English clan, the Grahams of Netherby and Mote.</p>
<div id="attachment_39404" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 610px"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/armstrong2.jpg" data-lightboxplus="lightbox[1776]" title="Border Reivers-Kinmont Willie Armstrong"><img class="size-full wp-image-39404" alt="Branxholme-the Nesby Tower-Home of Walter Scott" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/armstrong2.jpg" width="600" height="449" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Branxholme-the Nesby Tower-Home of Walter Scott</p></div>
<p><strong>A Small Rescue Party achieves its Aims</strong></p>
<p>On 13th April 1596 the rescue party led by Buccleuch and consisting mainly of <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-armstrong/">Armstrongs</a>, moved south through English territory to Carlisle. It was a horrendous night of heavy rain and thick cloud. They were adeptly aided by members of the Grahams who had been at odds with the Scropes for years.</p>
<p>The rescue was achieved with an ease that defied logic. A postern gate was opened from the inside by one of the friends of the English Carletons, another family who had vowed to see the end of Thomas Lord Scrope. Having previously been told exactly where Kinmont was warded, the five of the rescue party who entered the castle lost little time in freeing the great Scottish Reiver. The remainder of the rescue band were outside the castle walls banging on drums, blowing trumpets at a strident pitch and making such a discordant noise that the English garrison, already sheltering under coverlets from the veritable downpour, refused to stir. They thought there was an army outside the walls.</p>
<p>Kinmont was soon across the river Eden and heading north sheltered by his comrades in arms. He was to lie low in the valley of the Ewes, north of Langholm.</p>
<p><strong>The Aftermath</strong></p>
<p>Elizabeth l was furious when she received the news of the rescue. How dare any Scot attack one of her premier Border fortresses when peace existed between the two countries? The diplomatic wrangle between various ambassadors and the two monarchs went on for over a year. Elizabeth demanded that <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-scott/">Buccleuch</a> be handed over to the English for punishment as he was the one who had orchestrated the affair. <a href="/scotland/kings-queens/1567-james6/">James Vl</a>, reluctant to upset his countrymen who to a man applauded Buccleuch&#8217;s outrageous actions, refused to do so.</p>
<div id="attachment_39405" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 610px"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/armstrong3.jpg" data-lightboxplus="lightbox[1776]" title="Border Reivers-Kinmont Willie Armstrong"><img class="size-full wp-image-39405" alt="Tomb of Thomas Lord Scrope in the Village of Langar, Nottinghamshire" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/armstrong3.jpg" width="600" height="449" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Tomb of Thomas Lord Scrope in the Village of Langar, Nottinghamshire</p></div>
<p>As was usual in the Borders of the times where a catalogue of crime superceded the event, the heat finally went out of the situation but not before the strained allegiance between England and Scotland was severely tested.</p>
<p>Kinmont Willie? He went on to reive for many another day and died in his bed about 1603.</p>
<div id="attachment_39406" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 610px"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/armstrong4.jpg" data-lightboxplus="lightbox[1776]" title="Border Reivers-Kinmont Willie Armstrong"><img class="size-full wp-image-39406" alt="Sark Churchyard-Burial Place of Kinmont Willie." src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/armstrong4.jpg" width="600" height="449" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Sark Churchyard-Burial Place of Kinmont Willie.</p></div>
<p>Sark Churchyard-Burial Place of Kinmont Willie.</p>
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		<title>Muckle Mouthed Meg finds Love among the Reivers.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The eldest son of &#8216;Auld&#8217; (Old) Wat of Harden was William Scott who would succeed his father as Baron of Harden and be knighted by James VI. Harden House is still to be seen about three miles south of Hawick in the Scottish Borders as is the deep glen where Auld Wat hid the cattle [&#8230;]</p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The eldest son of <a href="http://modern-british-history.suite101.com/article.cfm/border_reivers_walter_scott_of_harden">&#8216;Auld&#8217; (Old) Wat of Harden </a>was William Scott who would succeed his father as Baron of Harden and be knighted by <a href="/scotland/kings-queens/1567-james6/">James VI</a>. Harden House is still to be seen about three miles south of Hawick in the Scottish Borders as is the deep glen where Auld Wat hid the cattle he stole from the English in his many forays south of the Border.</p>
<div id="attachment_39408" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 390px"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/meg1.jpg" data-lightboxplus="lightbox[1551]" title="Muckle Mouthed Meg finds Love among the Reivers."><img class="size-full wp-image-39408" alt="HARDEN GLEN" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/meg1.jpg" width="380" height="285" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">HARDEN GLEN</p></div>
<p>Thus young William was a member of one of the more illustrious Scottish Border clans, the <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-scott/">Scotts</a>. Indeed to this day they are one of the premier landowners in Great Britain. In the Border Lands of the 16th century they were a great force, their exploits many and legendary.</p>
<p>Auld Wat joined forces with Walter Scott of Buccleuch in the raid on Carlisle castle in 1596 to rescue William <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-armstrong/">Armstrong</a> of Kinmont who had been imprisoned illegally by the English. It was a deed of derring-do and is remembered with pride by the Border Scots to this day.</p>
<p>The lands of the Harden Scotts bordered and abutted those of the <a href="/scottish-clans/clan-murray/">Murrays</a> of <a href="http://modern-british-history.suite101.com/article.cfm/pele_towers_of_the_englishscottish_borderline">Elibank</a>. The two families were constantly at &#8216;feud&#8217; whereby each took every opportunity to steal from the other. Both families suffered from the endless reprisals.</p>
<p><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/meg2.jpg" data-lightboxplus="lightbox[1551]" title="Muckle Mouthed Meg finds Love among the Reivers."><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-39409" alt="meg2" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/meg2.jpg" width="483" height="337" /></a>The animosity and hatred which prevailed between the two families was to be overcome when young William was married. What began as yet another of the endless raids between the two families would have a novel outcome.</p>
<p>Muckle Mouthed Meg was the daughter of Sir Gideon Murray of Elibank. She was one of many daughters who blessed the union of Sir Gideon and his wife. Where some of the others were comely and attractive wenches, Meg was ugly. Her most notable feature was her mouth. Set in a face that invited derision from its angular and protruding jaw, it was wide, oh so wide; her lips were thick and full and, though conscious of the effect they had on any onlooker, Meg was a happy lass and could not refrain from smiling at any given opportunity. When she smiled or laughed her mouth seemed to cover her face from ear to ear. Embarrassed she might be but she could not refrain from giving vent to her disposition for happiness. A smile was a wonder to behold. The eligible young men of the district of Elibank were uneasy in her presence and gave its walls a wide berth.</p>
<p>I<a href="/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/meg3.jpg" data-lightboxplus="lightbox[1551]" title="Muckle Mouthed Meg finds Love among the Reivers."><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-39410" alt="meg3" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/meg3.jpg" width="385" height="289" /></a>It seemed that Meg, or to be more exact, Lady Agnes <a href="/scottish-clans/clan-murray/">Murray</a>, would remain unmarried much to the concern of her parents who were proud of the endearing qualities of their unfortunate daughter. She was loving, considerate and gentle, a source of great content to her doting parents. They had, however, grown resigned that their daughter would be with them until it was time for them to die.</p>
<p>Elibank castle, the ruins of which can still be seen, stands on the banks of the river Tweed. Fifteen miles to the south in the Ettrick valley, at another fortified tower of the <a href="http://www.reivershistory.co.uk">Border Reiving </a>days, Aikwood or Oakwood, lived the <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-scott/">Scotts</a> of Harden. (Oakwood is still lived in to this day by the former leader of the Liberal Party, and Presiding Officer of the Scottish Parliament, Sir David Steel).</p>
<p><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/meg4.jpg" data-lightboxplus="lightbox[1551]" title="Muckle Mouthed Meg finds Love among the Reivers."><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-39411" alt="meg4" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/meg4.jpg" width="400" height="319" /></a></p>
<p>One day he his avarice overcame his common-sense and he set off with a raiding party intent on lifting Murray&#8217;s cattle. The foray went badly awry and young William soon found himself held at Sir Gideon&#8217;s pleasure. The dungeons of Elibank were dark, damp and inhospitable.</p>
<p>Sir Gideon was intent on making a great show of the punishment he would dole out to William and advertised to neighbours and friends far and wide that there was to be a hanging. There were all cordially invited to attend.</p>
<p>Lady Murray had other ideas. She was well taken by the appearance of the handsome young man and ventured the proposition to her husband that his life should be spared if he would agree to marry their daughter Meg.</p>
<p>Initially Sir Gideon would have none of it, but on reflection his wife&#8217;s proposal had more than one advantage. He would marry off his daughter and cement a relationship with the House of Harden. The wiles of women are sometimes hard to estimate, he thought, but this was a first-rate idea.</p>
<p>The handsome William knew well of Muckle Mouthed Meg. Her ugliness was renowned throughout the valley of the Ettrick water. When he was approached by Sir Gideon and offered marriage to Meg as an alternative to standing the drop that would end his life, he asked for time to consider the proposal. Eventually, though he loved life to the full, he declined the offer and resigned himself to the noose. Hanging would be quick. The thought of a life-time with Meg a far greater punishment.</p>
<p>On the next day he was taken up from the dungeons and out into the woods beyond Elibank. As he approached the tree from which hung the rope that would end his life he saw that Meg was standing there, tearful, ready to intercede for his life even should he spurn her. He was much taken by her solicitude and woeful appearance. As he approached the tree, the rope swinging lazily in the slight breeze, he stopped dead in his tracks. The burly men, who stood at each side of him as escorts to his death, grappled with him and tried to force him forwards. William resisted and looked at the pitiful face of the young woman, ugly as she was. She was clearly tormented by the action that was unfolding. His heart melted at the sight of her distress. He threw off his warders with a mighty and determined show of strength and ran to her open arms.</p>
<p>Meg and young Wat were married within a short space of time. History tells us that it was a loving union, full of happiness and respect.</p>
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<p>The Houses of Harden and Elibank , so long at each others&#8217; throats, would be united at last… if only for a while.</p>
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		<title>Border Reivers-West March Warden is Murdered by the Armstrongs.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Sir John Carmichael of that Ilk was murdered in June 1600 by a party of Scottish Reivers as he rode from Langholm to Lochmaben to attend a Warden Court. Sir John was born in 1542, son to an illustrious family which hailed from Lanarkshire. He was a direct ancestor of the Earls of Hindford. He [&#8230;]</p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir John <a href="/scottish-clans/clan-carmichael/">Carmichael</a> of that Ilk was murdered in June 1600 by a party of <a href="http://modern-british-history.suite101.com/article.cfm/border_reivers_the_irvings_of_bonshaw">Scottish Reivers</a> as he rode from Langholm to Lochmaben to attend a Warden Court.</p>
<div id="attachment_39513" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 376px"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/reivers113.jpg" data-lightboxplus="lightbox[1461]" title="Border Reivers-West March Warden is Murdered by the Armstrongs."><img class="size-full wp-image-39513" alt="THE RIVERS ESK AND EWES AT LANGHOLM." src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/reivers113.jpg" width="366" height="275" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">THE RIVERS ESK AND EWES AT LANGHOLM.</p></div>
<p>Sir John was born in 1542, son to an illustrious family which hailed from Lanarkshire. He was a direct ancestor of the Earls of Hindford.</p>
<p>He was Scottish Deputy <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/the-wardens-of-the-marches/">March Warden</a> at the &#8216;Day of Truce&#8217; which was held on the Border in the hills aside present day Carter Bar in July 1575. The Day of Truce, a meeting to try the perpetrators of crime, both English and Scottish, was enshrined in Border Law. March Wardens from each side of the Border presided over the affairs and were charged with bringing the criminals for trial; juries were a mix of both Scots and English. Yet the &#8216;Day&#8217; was a time when many men attended from both England and Scotland to witness that fair play presided throughout.</p>
<p>In 1575 numbers who attended were limitless; it was not unusual for a thousand men from each country to witness the events. Thus it was nigh on impossible to bring Scots and English together without inviting many who were at feud. Such was the turmoil that reigned in the Border country that even blood-feud prevailed as men from the same clans and same side of the Border rubbed shoulders at the Truce but smarted for revenge at the sight of an adversary with whom they were at odds. The atmosphere was charged with belligerence and aggression, yet there was little alternative. All invited might ostensibly be there to see fair play but there was another reason, unspoken yet acknowledged by all. Their presence was some insurance that neither side would take advantage of the other, nor resort to violence should any judgement be deemed unfair by family or friend of the accused. All who attended the Truce were to arrive unarmed but the reality was so different. No man would have been so foolish as to adhere to this code in the cauldron of ill feeling which prevailed. The Wardens turned a blind eye to the steel which swung at each man&#8217;s belt.</p>
<p>All took an oath to honour the precept of the Truce. They swore that they would not offend &#8216;by word, deed or countenance&#8217;.</p>
<div id="attachment_39514" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 522px"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/reivers213.gif" data-lightboxplus="lightbox[1461]" title="Border Reivers-West March Warden is Murdered by the Armstrongs."><img class="size-full wp-image-39514" alt="THE BORDER MARCHES" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/reivers213.gif" width="512" height="374" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">THE BORDER MARCHES</p></div>
<p>At the Raid of the Redeswire Carmichael fell victim to the invective and guile of Sir John Forster, seventy-five years old, and English Middle March Warden. Reaction to the aggressive exchanges of the two Wardens soon spilled over to the men of both sides who attended and all hell let loose.</p>
<p>The Redeswire affair was the last battle between English and Scottish Border Reivers and the last time that the English used the longbow in warfare. The English came off the worse in this encounter and Carmichael was warded in York in an effort to appease the wrath of Elizabeth l of England. Sir George Heron of Chipchase in Tynedale, Northumberland was murdered in the affray.</p>
<p>There was at least one other occasion where Sir John Carmichael played a prominent part. In the Raid of Ruthven in 1582 the sixteen year old king of Scotland, James Vl, was captured by William Ruthven, 1st Earl of Gowrie, and confined for ten months. Gowrie was unhappy at the influence of Catholicism and the effect this might have on the young king. Carmichael held the same views and readily espoused the cause of ridding the nation of the pro-catholic and pro-French influences epitomised in the young king&#8217;s cousin, Esme <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-stewart">Stuart</a>.</p>
<p>Carmichael was soon pardoned for his part in the affair. In 1588 he was one of the ambassadors sent to Denmark to negotiate the marriage between <a href="/scotland/kings-queens/1567-james6/">James Vl</a> and Anne, daughter of the king of Denmark.</p>
<p>When Carmichael was made Warden of the Scottish West March in 1598 he had come of age. For all his turbulent past he was respected as a Warden who would see fair play between the English and Scots. There were many in the Scottish Border Lands who resented his impartial approach; none more so than the <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-armstrong/">Armstrongs</a> of Liddesdale.</p>
<div id="attachment_39521" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 613px"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/liddesdale.jpg" data-lightboxplus="lightbox[1461]" title="Border Reivers-West March Warden is Murdered by the Armstrongs."><img class="size-full wp-image-39521" alt="LIDDESDALE" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/liddesdale.jpg" width="603" height="453" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">LIDDESDALE</p></div>
<p>In 1600 Carmichael made it plain that he would use his power as March Warden even against his own people and especially the Armstrongs whose raids south of the Border were a particular embarrassment to a man dedicated to bringing peace to the <a href="http://modern-british-history.suite101.com/article.cfm/border_reivers_pacification_of_the_borders">Borders</a>. The Armstrongs decided to plead for leniency on the promise of amendment to their nefarious ways and sought an audience with Sir John. They sent a brother of <a href="http://www.reivershistory.co.uk">William Armstrong of Kinmont</a> to parley with Carmichael, one Alexander Armstrong, known as Sandeis Ringane. Carmichael had heard the promises too many times before and would have no truck with the Armstrong clan. Their past outrages deserved the punishments he held in store.</p>
<div id="attachment_39515" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 373px"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/reivers412.jpg" data-lightboxplus="lightbox[1461]" title="Border Reivers-West March Warden is Murdered by the Armstrongs."><img class="size-full wp-image-39515" alt="THE RUINS OF MANGERTON TOWER; THE MAIN ARMSTRONG STRONGHOLD" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/reivers412.jpg" width="363" height="273" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">THE RUINS OF MANGERTON TOWER; THE MAIN ARMSTRONG STRONGHOLD</p></div>
<p>At the meeting with Carmichael were a few of his young followers. They began to taunt the elderly Armstrong and endeavoured to humiliate him at every opportunity. It would seem that Carmichael did little to curb their youthful pranks and overt hostility to the once powerful warlord. At one stage they removed his sword and filled his scabbard with egg yolks. Having replaced the sword it was now impossible to remove it from the scabbard.</p>
<p>Sandeis Ringane was besides himself with fury and swore that should any of the present company of Carmichael ever stray on Armstrong land he would have no compunction in pulling his sword and ridding the world of their odious presence.  The meeting broke up with acrimony.</p>
<p>On his return home Sandeis Ringane told his sons of his mistreatment. His eldest son, Thomas Armstrong, said little in the way of comfort to calm the distress and shame of his unfortunate father but the thought of revenge was soon at the forefront of his mind.</p>
<p>He knew that next morning Sir John Carmichael was to leave Langholm and ride for Lochmaben where he was to preside over a Warden Court. The journey, through hilly woodland, would surely present the perfect opportunity to confront the illustrious March Warden.</p>
<div id="attachment_39516" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 443px"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/reivers512.jpg" data-lightboxplus="lightbox[1461]" title="Border Reivers-West March Warden is Murdered by the Armstrongs."><img class="size-full wp-image-39516" alt="THE RUINS OF LOCHMABEN CASTLE" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/reivers512.jpg" width="433" height="326" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">THE RUINS OF LOCHMABEN CASTLE</p></div>
<p>Accordingly next morning a party of Armstrongs including Thomas Armstrong and his father along with a Taylor, a Forrester, a Scott and a Graham lay in wait for Carmichael at a place still known to this day as the Raesknowes, on the way to Lochmaben. As the March Warden passed the ambush party a number of hagbutts rang out and Carmichael fell dead.</p>
<p>The ambush party scattered and sought refuge at the homes of friends who had been apprised of the intention to kill Carmichael but they were relentlessly pursued on the orders of King James.</p>
<p>Carmichael was a king&#8217;s Warden of the Marches and the perpetrators of the murder were therefore considered as traitors. Murder in the Border lands was pretty commonplace in the 16th century but this one was different. Murder of a man appointed by the King himself was not to be tolerated. The wrongdoers would pay the ultimate price for their rash and impetuous crime against a King&#8217;s man.</p>
<p>In 1601 Thomas Armstrong, son to Sandies Ringane, was apprehended, taken to the Mercat Cross at Edinburgh and hanged. Before he stood the drop that ended his life his right hand was cut off. Subsequently his body was wrapped in chains, the lifeless corpse hung up at the Borroughmuir.</p>
<p>&#8216;And Thomas Armstrang, &#8220;sone to Sandeis Ringane&#8221; was condemned to be &#8220;tane to the mercat croce of Edinburgh, and thair his richt hand to be stricken fra his arme; and thaireeftir, to be hanget upoune ane gibbet, quhill he be deid; and thaireefter, to be tane to the Gallows on the Burrowmure, and thair his body to be hangit in irn chains…</p>
<p>Thomas Armstrong was the first man ever to be hanged in chains after death; at least he is the first recorded as such in the Scottish records. Even in death he was to suffer for his crime, his body subject to the butt of endless atrocity by the Edinburgh populace.</p>
<p>One man evaded capture until 1606.</p>
<p>Should you ever find yourself taking the road from Canonbie to Newcastleton in the Scottish Borders, you will come across a statue to Lang Sandy as you pass through the village of Rowanburn. It is on your right as you pass through the village.</p>
<p>Lang Sandy, as his name implies, was a huge man. His real name was Alexander Armstrong, the board at his feet simply declaring that he was hanged in 1606.</p>
<p>He took part in the ambush and murder of Sir John Carmichael in June 1600 but was not caught until six years later.</p>
<p>At his trial he admitted the murder but not before saying that the crime was brought on against his will.</p>
<p>The murder of Sir John Carmichael would herald the end of the Armstrongs as the superior force in the Scottish Border Lands. Within three years of the murder, James Vl of Scotland would also rule in England on the death of Elizabeth l. He would not forget the atrocity committed by a clan that had often been the bane of his endeavours to cement a lasting and firm relationship with the English queen before her death. Many of the <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-armstrong/">Armstrongs</a> would be unjustly hounded and persecuted, evicted from their lands, deported and executed without trial.</p>
<p><a href="/scottish-clans/clan-carmichael/">Carmichael</a>&#8216;s death would signal their demise.</p>
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<li><a title="Armstrong Tartan Tie" href="http://www.scotclans.com/product/gents-wool-tartan-tie-best-seller/?clan=armstrong">Armstrong Tartan Tie</a></li>
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<li><a title="Armstrong Clan Crest Sgain Dubh" href="http://www.scotclans.com/product/clan-crest-sgian-dubh-with-amber-stone-top/?clan=armstrong">Armstrong Clan Crest Sgain Dubh</a></li>
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		<title>The Wardens of the Marches</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The relationship between Scotland and England wasn&#8217;t always as amicable as it is today.  From the late 13th century to the 16th century, Scotland and England were constantly at war with each other.  This created a lawless environment where crime soared, people from both sides of the border would live more like outlaws, taking advantage [&#8230;]</p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">The relationship between Scotland and England wasn&#8217;t always as amicable as it is today.  From the late 13<sup>th</sup> century to the 16<sup>th</sup> century, Scotland and England were constantly at war with each other.  This created a lawless environment where crime soared, people from both sides of the border would live more like outlaws, taking advantage of the constant fighting.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In 1249 in an attempt to deal with crime an agreement was signed between both nations, a system began called the &#8216;Laws of the Marches&#8217; this was to be carried out by the &#8216;Wardens of the Marches&#8217; who were appointed by their respective monarchs.</p>
<div id="attachment_982" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 408px"><a href="http://www.letsbuyscottish.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/marches21.jpg" data-lightboxplus="lightbox[967]" title="Borders area showing the different marches"><img class="size-full wp-image-982" title="Borders area showing the different marches" alt="Borders area showing the different marches" src="http://www.letsbuyscottish.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/marches21.jpg" width="398" height="302" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Borders area showing the different marches</p></div>
<div id="attachment_984" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 130px"><a href="http://www.letsbuyscottish.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/robert_carey1.jpg" data-lightboxplus="lightbox[967]" title="Sir Robert Carey,  Lord Warden of the Marches"><img class="size-full wp-image-984" title="Sir Robert Carey,  Lord Warden of the Marches" alt="Sir Robert Carey,  Lord Warden of the Marches, and a contemporary of Elizabeth I and James VI." src="http://www.letsbuyscottish.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/robert_carey1.jpg" width="120" height="185" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Sir Robert Carey, Lord Warden of the Marches</p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The border lands on each side divided into three marches: an east, middle, and west march.  Each march had its own warden, who was responsible for the security of the area and its people Each Waarden answered to the Lord Warden. The Scottish wardens were familiar with their territories, and knew the people from the marches, and this gave them the opportunity to get involved in questionable dealings in order to further their position. However, the English wardens were not as familiar with the area and the ways of the Borderers, and often went about creating more problems than they solved when trying to administer any justice.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Examples of some of the families you would traditionally find on the Scottish side are: <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-home/">Hume</a>, <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-trotter/">Trotter</a>, Dixon in East March; <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-kerr/">Kerr</a>, <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-scott/">Scott</a>, <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-turnbull/">Turnbull</a> in Middle March; and <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-bell/">Bell</a>, <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-irvine/">Irvine</a>, <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-johnstone/">Johnstone</a> in West March.</p>
<div id="attachment_38936" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 524px"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/marches13.jpg" data-lightboxplus="lightbox[967]" title="The Wardens of the Marches"><img class="size-full wp-image-38936" alt="Wardens of The March" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/marches13.jpg" width="514" height="334" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Wardens of The March</p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Wardens from both sides of the border would meet monthly in peace on the day of truce. They would assess the complaints from either side, and administer the appropriate justice. The Wardens had to bear in mind that both countries valued things differently, and this created many difficulties when trying to solve these grievances. Many of the crimes would range from cattle rustling to murder.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">To explain about how the Wardens of the Marches worked; if for example you were English, and went north of the border to Scotland and stole some cattle, it used to be quite normal to get a a pat on the back back in England, because you had committed a crime in the opposite realm.  You would go unpunished.  The purpose of the Wardens was to prevent this from happening. The Wardens were expected to talk to their foreign counterpart. So if someone went across the border to steal something, then the warden whose land was plundered would tell his counterpart, and the issue would be resolved on the day of truce. The task of solving each person&#8217;s grievance was a taxing and thankless task, which usually provided solutions that left no-one happy.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Those who were accused of a crime were supposedly tried by six honest Scotsmen and six honest Englishmen. However it has been said that this could never have happened because you would not have been able to find any honest men from either side of the border.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The &#8216;Calendar of Border Papers&#8217; has recorded a large number of complaints that were made to the Wardens of the Marches. They go into some detail as how many of these people were wronged by raiders both sides of the border. The papers are still available to read to this day.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">By 1603 the role of Warden of the Marches became unnecessary, after the <a href="http://www.scotclans.com/scotland/scottish-history/scottish-unification/1603-union/">union of the crowns</a> when <a href="/scotland/kings-queens/1567-james6/">James VI &amp; I</a>, in his attempt to permanently put an end to the Border Reiver clans, got rid of the name &#8220;Borders&#8221; to represent that area, and renamed it the &#8220;Middle Shires&#8221;. Over the following 100 years you saw a gradual change of the borderers putting down the sword and picking up the plough.</p>
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